Firefox OS

What I would like to see as the roadmap is not adding more features to Firefox, because it’s a good browser, but if you had a development cycle for a Firefox OS, and you had 10 percent of the computers in the world going out with Fire OS on it, then we would see some improvements in this corporation in Redmond.

[…] people would trust Firefox and Mozilla far more than they trust the Microsoft Corp. with the integrity of their computers.

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While I would like to see a real alternative to Windows and OSX, part of me thinks we’ve already got enough Linux distributions. On the other hand, none of them have achieved any kind of critical mass. If the Firefox developers could do it well, then it might be really interesting. What do you think?

19 thoughts on “Firefox OS”

  1. Nicole says:

    I think if they could do it well and make it cooperate with files from other OSes (specifically Windows, since I use them, but probably also UNIX because I’ll need that in my research), then I would certainly consider using it.

  2. Joen says:

    Nicole said:

    I think if they could do it well and make it cooperate with files from other OSes (specifically Windows, since I use them, but probably also UNIX because I?ll need that in my research), then I would certainly consider using it.

    I think many of the newer Linux distributions do that pretty well (I think, I never tried it), but I think the killer app would be Adobe pledging to make Linux versions of their software. Thinking about it, it’s not that unlikely. After all, Adobe is in direct competition with Microsoft on several key areas, and they’ve already ported their apps to MacOSX which is UNIX. Since Linux is based on UNIX, one could take a wild guess that it might not be a huge job to port it to Linux.

    Then again, this is probably just wishful thinking.

  3. Jonas Rabbe says:

    Joen said:

    … and they?ve already ported their apps to MacOSX which is UNIX….

    Porting their application to Mac OS X is not equal to porting it to UNIX. The graphics libraries in particular are very different on Mac OS X and on the different Linux variants I’ve programmed for.

    For Adobe to port their apps, however, they probably want to see a business case. I don’t think they’ll do it just because they don’t like MS.

  4. Joen says:

    Of course you’re perfectly right as usual. Sigh.

  5. khaled says:

    I can see you’re itching much in the same way that I am :). I’ve made the move to ubuntu although I know it’s got a long way before it hits critical mass. It’s a step in the right direction but it’s going to need a few more years me thinks. I’m going to be posting about this extensively but you’re right we need something that works perfectly out the box that isn’t ms or apple related. A firefox os would be fun and based on what they’ve done with a browser probably the best of all worlds. They’ve got enough money to develop it I would expect, I mean they started with an open source project that made them millions…

  6. Joen says:

    I can see you?re itching much in the same way that I am :).

    Oh very much so. Having discussed Windows and Mac for ages now, I’ve come to the realization that I dislike both πŸ™‚

    I?ve made the move to ubuntu although I know it?s got a long way before it hits critical mass.

    Ubuntu has stirred my switchy itch… can you multi boot? And do you use Wine? (That Windows emulator I keep hearing about). If so, how does that work?

  7. Firstoff, the article is bunk.

    Recently Blake Ross said in an interview in a Seattle: “I’m beginning a start-up and I’m not going to tell you, because ‘people in Redmond’ read you too”. (Seatle->Redmond->Microsoft, for those that don’t follow)

    And bam! Suddenly that counts as “someones going to make a Firefox OS”. It’s most likely going to be an app – or even a web-app.

    Joen said:

    Ubuntu has stirred my switchy itch… can you multi boot? And do you use Wine? (That Windows emulator I keep hearing about). If so, how does that work?

    Wine works well – but only to a point of course. The “Codeweavers” version of Wine should work the best for apps like MS Office and Photoshop.

    Dual boot is standard in Linux, so yes.

    khaled said:

    I?ve made the move to ubuntu although I know it?s got a long way before it hits critical mass. It?s a step in the right direction but it?s going to need a few more years me thinks.

    Heh. It’s been needing a few more years for a while now. Sure, there are improvements right across the board – but I found it funny that a recent article by a designer (not you Khaled) who’d switched to Linux was still using the same apps I was using a few years ago; so it seems like the status quo are still there.

  8. Joen says:

    Firstoff, the article is bunk.

    Maybe so, but the fact that this is being discussed is interesting. Certainly I would have never thought I’d warm up to Linux, and this recent hubbub about Ubuntu and now this has stirred me.

    A measure of scale that works for me: if it reaches me, it means it’s reached A LOT of people.

    Wine works well – but only to a point of course. The ?Codeweavers? version of Wine should work the best for apps like MS Office and Photoshop.

    Any word on speed? Meaning, how fast does Photoshop run under Wine? While I know of the Linux alternatives (I read Khaleds article too), there are Windows apps I need to be able to run.

    Dual boot is standard in Linux, so yes.

    Excellent, so I can try it out.

  9. Joen said:

    Certainly I would have never thought I?d warm up to Linux, and this recent hubbub about Ubuntu and now this has stirred me.

    A measure of scale that works for me: if it reaches me, it means it?s reached A LOT of people.

    Sure, but that doesn’t make the programme any better. (Although Mark Shuttleworth of Ubuntu is doing a lot to help.)

    Any word on speed? Meaning, how fast does Photoshop run under Wine? While I know of the Linux alternatives (I read Khaleds article too), there are Windows apps I need to be able to run.

    Dunno how it is now, but even a few years ago Photoshop 7 wasn’t too bad, but not enough to really use. No clue about how fast CS 2 is though.

  10. Khaled says:

    What I would do personally is dual boot it, it’s not very tricky although I would DEFINITELY make sure that you’ve got a nix geek at the ready to bail you out like I needed. It’s a learning curve of sorts. You can dual boot for a while until you get comfortable with linux etc. I installed linux on sunday and I’ve not booted windows once since I installed it all. Just not all that interested at the moment to be honest.

    I will say that my 64 bit AMD is giving far too much hassle because I don’t know what I’m doing and all the programmes seem to need special attention when using this hardware.

    Like I said I’ve got LOADS of stuff to say on the subject, might even start tonight πŸ™‚

  11. Khaled said:

    I will say that my 64 bit AMD is giving far too much hassle because I don?t know what I?m doing and all the programmes seem to need special attention when using this hardware.

    They don’t. You can, to enable 64-bit, but otherwise you’ll be a regular 32-bit user and you’ll be fine.

  12. George says:

    I’m just not sold on the need for a(nother) competitor to OSX and Windows. Firefox was great because it lit a fire under Microsoft’s lazy ass – IE really had become a sloppy, damaging monopoly.

    By contrast, OSX and Linux, in their different ways, seem to be doing a decent job of keeping Microsoft on their toes and keeping them pushing Windows forwards already.

  13. Joen says:

    George,

    The problem with Linux, as I see it, is that there is not just one version. There are many. Ubuntu, Red Hat, FreeBSD (is this even Linux?), to name a few. They all have strengths in various areas, but none of them combine these features into one good package that presents a serious alternative to either OS.

    My point is, I’m tired of having Windows being pushed forward by lesser OSs, I’d like to actually have an alternative, which to my understanding there isn’t now.

  14. Ben says:

    In absolute, utter honesty, if the Firefox development team made an OS, I wouldn’t touch it with a ten yard bargepole. I only use Firefox out of blatant necessity, not because it’s good at any length. I’m sufficed with Windows currently, so I’ll stick to that without qualm.

    More power to them if they were to go ahead though.

  15. Ben says:

    Ps. Joen, FreeBSD is a UNIX. They’re all POSIX though, so I guess the point is null-and-void for the most part.

  16. Joen says:

    I tried Ubuntu just a little bit the other day (on the Live CD). What a breeze it was to simply boot from the CD.

    So far I’m very impressed. Whether or not I’ll stick with it will be a battle won or lost on hardware compatability and Wine performance.

    I think I would feel the same way about a Firefox Linux.

    Joen, FreeBSD is a UNIX. They?re all POSIX though, so I guess the point is null-and-void for the most part.

    Thanks πŸ™‚ I’ll have to read up on this. So Linux is “Unix based”?

  17. shorty114 says:

    Yup. Linux, FreeBSD, Mac OSX and so on are all based off of UNIX.

    If you really want to go hardcore linux user, do Gentoo. really lightweight, but you need to be comfortable with compiling and CLI.

    That said, I used Ubuntu before Gentoo and it’s a great distro.

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